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Not Prince Hamlet, nor was meant to be - The Unified Immaturity Theory, or Why Judd Apatow Is Not My Cup Of Anything
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The Unified Immaturity Theory, or Why Judd Apatow Is Not My Cup Of Anything
Our Internet is out at home; our Internet carrier, AT&T, claims our modem number no longer matches the number they have on file. WTF? This meant I didn't get much work done over the weekend, but it also kept me from killing excessive time online, so I finally started the back-yard garden (tomatoes, three kinds of basil, rosemary, two kinds of peapods) and did some heavy-duty cleaning.

And on Saturday, Cass and Chris and [info]asparas and [info]kneelbeforezod and I drove over to the Cascade Drive-In for Iron Man and Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Well, really for Iron Man. The extra movie was just kind of a bonus.

It was colder than I would have liked; we brought blankets and folding chairs and started the evening under the stars, but the speaker nearest us was on the fritz and even huddling under a blanket couldn't dispel the cold wind in my face, so three-fourths of the way through Iron Man, I gave up and retreated into the car. Even so, I enjoyed the movie a lot, possibly because I've never read an Iron Man comic and know nothing about the character, so while I wasn't getting the in-jokes that made Chris comment that he could hear distant fanboy squeeing across the land, I also wasn't comparing the film to umptiddily jillion previous versions of the story, and wondering why I was sitting through it again. Also, the suit design was Teh Hot.

Forgetting Sarah Marshall, on the other hand… [info]scott_tobias says I have "an Apatow block," which may in a way be true; I just refuse to get on the crowded Judd Apatow bandwagon with all the other A.V. Clubbers. I thought The 40-Year-Old Virgin was pretty damn funny, and that's been about it for me and Apatow getting along. I never saw Anchorman or Walk Hard. I thought Knocked Up was poisonous and hateful. I was indifferent to Superbad. I have negative-no (sometimes rendered as No-minus) interest in You Don't Mess With The Zohan. Everybody around me seems to find films by Apatow and his circle of friends warm and hilarious and true-to-life. I just find them annoying.

And talking about it with Scott, I realized why; I just don't find immaturity funny or sweet. And all Apatow-related films at their core are pretty much about little kids in big kids' bodies. Sometimes they're trying hard to grow up and get over themselves, sometimes they're reveling and wallowing, but either way… I just don't care. I didn't find the plight of the protagonist in Sarah Marshall interesting. His ultra-hot, successful girlfriend of five years has dumped him for being a pathetic sad sack who spends an entire week at home in sweatpants, eating gigantic mixing bowls full of cereal and leaving his socks draped over lamps. And now he can't stop crying and stalking her. And he spends the whole movie getting over her to the point where he can literally scream at her that she's the devil and that his cock doesn't want to be near her any more. Which he does with the help of another ultra-hot woman who inexplicably decides she likes him in spite of his binge crying and overall patheticness.

I'm not offended by any of this the way I was over Knocked Up. It just didn't do anything for me as a story, because I couldn't sympathize with the protagonist or his all-his-fault plight, and I found the movie's obvious sympathy for him pretty cloying.

Realizing WHY, though, has made me pretty happy, because now I have a unified theory that explains why I don't like the films of Mike Myers and Rob Schneider and Adam Sandler, either. Thing is, I was a really serious child. Even as a little kid, I liked hanging out with adults and doing adult things and trying to talk to adults. So why, 30 years later, I'd want to spend a bunch of time watching grown men act more like bratty, whiny children than I did when I was a child, I don't know. At this point, I picture Judd Apatow as a man who has a bed shaped like a sports car and still wears footy pajamas. I don't wish him any ill. But I'm not joining him and his peeps on any more of these little self-congratulory kiddie sleepovers they call movies, either.

I'm-a feelin': satisfied

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rfrancis From: [info]rfrancis Date: May 12th, 2008 10:18 pm (UTC) (Link)
I find gross-out comedy, and other comedy-by-immaturity, embarrassing. Even as a kid, if (I know, I know) Three's Company was on, I'd get embarrassed by the sheer jackassedness and have to turn it off because I was so uncomfortable. I've ignored all Apatow movies as a consequence.

I do like the shows Big Bang Theory and How I Met Your Mother, which for whatever reason almost (almost!) never push those buttons. Likewise Scrubs, even though J.D. is the very model of a kid in an adult's body. So I dunno.
felisdemens From: [info]felisdemens Date: May 12th, 2008 10:26 pm (UTC) (Link)
Aah! You've hit it on the head.
buscemi From: [info]buscemi Date: May 12th, 2008 10:29 pm (UTC) (Link)
At this point, I picture Judd Apatow as a man who has a bed shaped like a sports car and still wears footy pajamas.

>>Hee! I wish he'd go back to making shows like Freaks and Geeks.

The last Mike Myers film I really liked was So I Married an Axe Murderer. That new one he's in looks pretty horrible. I think it's called The Love Guru or something.

Adam Sandler's movies are hit and miss for me. The Wedding Singer was great, though.
culfinglin From: [info]culfinglin Date: May 12th, 2008 10:42 pm (UTC) (Link)
Iron Man suit: A friend of Ron's designed the suit model; we went and watched it on Friday night and spent most of the credits searching for and applauding the names of the artists we knew who worked on it. I will totally remember the friend's name at 4 this morning, arg.

Also, Robert Downey Jr: TEH HOTNESS.


habiliments From: [info]habiliments Date: May 12th, 2008 10:44 pm (UTC) (Link)
I can and do agree with quite a bit of this, but I thought the point of the ending of FSM was that whatsisname (I keep wanting to call him Marshall) didn't really get the girl (ugh, what a phase) until he pulled himself out of his funk and, well, grew up, kind of. That made all the difference to me — well, that and that I liked that both Kristen Bell and Mila Kunis seemed a little bit more like real, complicated, contradictory humans than female characters are usually allowed to be in boy movies.

(That paragraph is all a tangle, but I think I have a point in there someplace. Ugh, work.)
keleri From: [info]keleri Date: May 12th, 2008 10:52 pm (UTC) (Link)
At this point, I picture Judd Apatow as a man who has a bed shaped like a sports car and still wears footy pajamas.

AAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHHAH. xDDD


Anchorman I watched just so I could know the jokes, but the rest of those gross-out type comedies I usually have trouble watching. :/ Conversely, I mostly liked Talladega Nights because it had more "Will Ferrell acting like an idiot" than gross-out moments. I think. *wanders off, like the point of this paragraph seems to have done*

x)
thefirethorn From: [info]thefirethorn Date: May 13th, 2008 12:18 am (UTC) (Link)
She was. She was a very serious child.
madresal From: [info]madresal Date: May 13th, 2008 01:23 am (UTC) (Link)

maybe my hopes are too high

I loved 40-year-old Virgin and Superbad.

I though Anchorman was terrible.

I haven't seen the others but figured I would love them, since I liked 40-year-old virgin and Superbad.

I don't find them true to life, I find them kind of off the wall. In Superbad, though, he really nailed the awkwardness of being a teen, I was practically squirming in my seat. Maybe since some of that awkwardness is more recent than high school for me.

No one likes Rob Schneider movies, by the way.